What kind of Owls should be used for references for the Narnian Owls? I have done some research on this subject because I believe it is an important factor. Firstly, how many owl types are there: 216 species.
(Pictures of each)
https://www.audubon.org/news/learn-identify-five-owls-their-calls
https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/learn-to-identify-the-distinctive-calls-of-owls/
https://www.thespruce.com/owl-identification-tips-387325
https://www.owlpages.com/owls/sounds.php
https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/blogs/owls-you-might-hear-night
According to these I think the owls should be Barred Owls.
You read these pages and then go back and read the book lines and then you decide for yourself.
Saturday, November 10, 2018
Is Susan Lost? By Rebekah Walton
Really, this a terrible question it presents the
asker of it as a person who does not care about anyone else, the dwarves,
Harold and Alberta and the rest of the people on that trainwreck.
After all,
those people should be important as well, but, the person asking Is Susan Lost
cares nothing about those other people and only cares about a person who did
not die and therefore the story does not tell us the ending of. We do not know
the ending of Susan.
All we know is that right now she thinks her siblings are
being rather silly. But, earlier in the Chronicles of Narnia we say statements
like ‘‘Once a King or Queen of Narnia always a king or queen of Narnia’’, which
means to me if you just forget about something that does not make it any less
true.
Let’s look at what the seven friends of Narnia said about Susan.
“My
sister Susan,” answered Peter shortly and gravely, “is no longer a friend of
Narnia.”“Yes,” said Eustace, “and whenever you’ve tried to get her to come and
talk about Narnia or do anything about Narnia, she says, ‘What wonderful
memories you have! Fancy your still thinking about all those funny games we
used to play when we were children.’”
"Oh, Susan! She's interested in nothing
nowadays except nylons and lipstick and invitations. She always was a jolly
sight too keen on being grown-up." –Jill Pole
"Grown-up, indeed. I wish she would grow up. She wasted all her school time wanting to be the age she is now, and she'll waste all the rest of her life trying to stay that age. Her whole idea is to race on to the silliest time of one's life as quick as she can and then stop there as long as she can."- Polly
Now, let’s look at what Lewis mentioned about her
later:
Lewis wrote to a young reader in 1957: “The books
don’t tell us what happened to Susan. She is left alive in this world at the
end, having by then turned into a rather silly, conceited young woman. But
there’s plenty of time for her to mend and perhaps she will get to Aslan’s
country in the end . . . in her own way.”
In his Companion to
Narnia, Paul F. Ford writes at the end of the entry for Susan
Pevensie that "Susan's is one of the most important Unfinished
Tales of The Chronicles of Narnia", but adds in Footnote 1 for that entry:
‘‘This is
not to say, as some critics have maintained, that she is lost forever ... It is
a mistake to think that Susan was killed in the railway accident at the end
of The Last Battle and that she has forever fallen from grace.
It is to be assumed, rather, that as a woman of twenty-one who has just lost
her entire family in a terrible crash, she will have much to work through; in
the process, she might change to become truly the gentle person she has the
potential for being.’’
Someone on
Narniaweb said, ‘‘He never said Susan was permanently barred from Narnia, just
that – at the time of LB – she was preoccupied with more shallow things to the
neglect of the important things.’’
Which to me is exactly the point. But, also,
wow, no one is thinking about Harold and Alberta who lost their son and the
Pevensies save Susan in a car accident. They were also too preoccupied about
being healthy to think about Christ. But, surely they saw what a different child Eustace was
once he came back from Narnia.
According to the books, when Eustace returns
home after his adventures, his mother thinks he has become tiresome and
commonplace, blaming the change on the influence of "those Pevensie children" — though everyone else thinks
he has become a much better person. But, surely after the death of their son
and the Pevensies, both Harold and Alberta would go over to the house where
Susan was living and would mourn over their deaths.
So, the question should not
be Is Susan Lost, but rather How long is it going to take Susan to come back to
realizing what is right? Susan was not the only person who lost people in that
train accident and likely, some boy lost a family member in that accident as
well. And then when she comes to mourn and put flowers at the accident she
meets the young man who also came to do the same thing……Oh, sorry, a fan
fiction in the works….
But, really when I think of Susan all I can think about
is how her story is ripe for fan fiction.
And this is the basis of Lewis’ beliefs
about fan fiction in relation to Narnia. Writing to a young fan, C.S Lewis
states, “I am delighted to hear that you liked the Narnian books. There is a
map at the end of some of them in some editions. But why not do one yourself!
And why not write stories for yourself to fill up the gaps in Narnian history?
I’ve left you plenty of hints – especially where Lucy and the Unicorn are
talking...I feel I have done all I can!"(104).
In this way, Lewis is
saying I have written books to encourage fan fiction and creativity. So, if you
are so worried about Susan being lost, why don’t you write your own fan fiction
already?
Just to get you started, here’s an idea HPofNARNIA
and Fireberry suggested on Narniaweb:
Susan has
someone arrive at her door.
"Hey, I’m sorry to say this to you but- your
family is dead"
Susan: *Eyes wide open* "What!"
"There was a terrible Accident. your Parents,
your Brothers and Sister and your Cousin were in a train, it crashed and killed
them, along with your Cousin’s friend, the Professor you stayed with and his
friend. They’re all dead. I’m sorry."
Susan: *Gasp*
That’s all I can think of.
… And the next day, Susan goes to the scene of the
railway accident to lay down a huge wreath of flowers … and by the side of the
tracks, she notices something … green and yellow rings? She approaches and
reaches down to pick up a yellow ring. and … TO BE CONTINUED!
So, there’s your jumpstart, write away.
Or since Netflix now owns Narnia, here's your ending to The Last Battle.
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Sunday, September 10, 2017
Eustace /Jill Romance (Eustill) by Rebekah Walton
This is the only non-cannon Narnian Romance that I would say has real possibilities within the Chronicles.
Many would argue that the only reason that they did not together in Chronicles was because they died.
With that said, does that mean that I want a really fleshed out romance for them in the movies? No. I still do not.
(I don't even want a teen romance between Aravis and Shasta. And they are a cannon couple.
I just want them to focus on the adventure story and then at the end show their wedding years later and them ruling the kingdom.)
I think fleshed out romance would take away from the core of the story and would be distracting to the audience. But, I see nothing wrong with having an implied romance. This romance is pretty popular considering the number of fan fictions on this pairing is quite high and only is below the dreaded romance that will not be named and Lucy and Caspian ( an inferred and possibly implied romance in the film).
Which means even if they do not imply the romance between Eustace and Jill, many people will still infer it.
I think implying a possible romance between Eustace and Jill is one of the best things that they can do considering what things might happen if they do not properly deal with other elements.
In the Silver Chair there are three guys and a girl who are heavily involved in the story. Caspian does not count guys, he's really old and (spoiler) dies. We have the Prince/Knight Rilian, Eustace, and Puddleglum. Jill kissed Puddleglum, and Rilian calls her ''lady'', and ''damsel''.
So, there are two very bad directions this film could go. (I am not sure if I even have to name them. But, just incase, we could end up with a love triangle or create needless shippings which are way worse and distracting from the story than Eustill.)
Now, they could just stick with the book and keep Eustace and Jill at age 9 and then they won't have any of these issues, but I don't have enough faith in them, to even think that they could do this properly. (VODT movie left me with no faith in producers, and directors, or script writers.) But, I am afraid all Hollywood knows is how to ruin things.
In order to make sure this is doesn't blow up, we have create the age difference factor for Puddleglum and Jill. Plus, make sure the kiss is on the forehead or something (in the book, Jill is nine, but in movies they like to age up characters). So, that would solve the Puddleglum problem.
Now on to the Rilian problem. Rilian is a prince and a knight and any girl might fall for him. In the books, Rilian is around 30. But, if they make Rilian really handsome and age them to their teens, no one will even care about age different and we will end up with another forbidden romance(the romance that will not be named). We could make a girl at home really like him, and when he comes back (she should not go on the journey with them.) he can see her and remember her from his childhood and they can hug, thus ruining any potential romance between Jill and Rilian.
Also, a method to stop this from happening is to imply a romance between Eustace and Jill. Is this the only way they could stop the other potential romances with an implied Eustace and Jill romance? No, but this is an easy way to get around those other issues.
But, remember guys implied is implied, I still don't want a kiss or them declaring love or like for each other.
Simple things like holding hands and hugging are fine if they do not distract too much from the story.
So, no, Eustill romance is not the worst thing that could ever happen. In fact, an implied romance might save us from worse things.
(By the way, the worst thing that could ever happen is Silver Chair movie to become like Voyage of the Dawn Treader movie, but that is another post for another time.)
Many would argue that the only reason that they did not together in Chronicles was because they died.
With that said, does that mean that I want a really fleshed out romance for them in the movies? No. I still do not.
(I don't even want a teen romance between Aravis and Shasta. And they are a cannon couple.
I just want them to focus on the adventure story and then at the end show their wedding years later and them ruling the kingdom.)
I think fleshed out romance would take away from the core of the story and would be distracting to the audience. But, I see nothing wrong with having an implied romance. This romance is pretty popular considering the number of fan fictions on this pairing is quite high and only is below the dreaded romance that will not be named and Lucy and Caspian ( an inferred and possibly implied romance in the film).
Which means even if they do not imply the romance between Eustace and Jill, many people will still infer it.
I think implying a possible romance between Eustace and Jill is one of the best things that they can do considering what things might happen if they do not properly deal with other elements.
In the Silver Chair there are three guys and a girl who are heavily involved in the story. Caspian does not count guys, he's really old and (spoiler) dies. We have the Prince/Knight Rilian, Eustace, and Puddleglum. Jill kissed Puddleglum, and Rilian calls her ''lady'', and ''damsel''.
So, there are two very bad directions this film could go. (I am not sure if I even have to name them. But, just incase, we could end up with a love triangle or create needless shippings which are way worse and distracting from the story than Eustill.)
Now, they could just stick with the book and keep Eustace and Jill at age 9 and then they won't have any of these issues, but I don't have enough faith in them, to even think that they could do this properly. (VODT movie left me with no faith in producers, and directors, or script writers.) But, I am afraid all Hollywood knows is how to ruin things.
In order to make sure this is doesn't blow up, we have create the age difference factor for Puddleglum and Jill. Plus, make sure the kiss is on the forehead or something (in the book, Jill is nine, but in movies they like to age up characters). So, that would solve the Puddleglum problem.
Now on to the Rilian problem. Rilian is a prince and a knight and any girl might fall for him. In the books, Rilian is around 30. But, if they make Rilian really handsome and age them to their teens, no one will even care about age different and we will end up with another forbidden romance(the romance that will not be named). We could make a girl at home really like him, and when he comes back (she should not go on the journey with them.) he can see her and remember her from his childhood and they can hug, thus ruining any potential romance between Jill and Rilian.
Also, a method to stop this from happening is to imply a romance between Eustace and Jill. Is this the only way they could stop the other potential romances with an implied Eustace and Jill romance? No, but this is an easy way to get around those other issues.
But, remember guys implied is implied, I still don't want a kiss or them declaring love or like for each other.
Simple things like holding hands and hugging are fine if they do not distract too much from the story.
So, no, Eustill romance is not the worst thing that could ever happen. In fact, an implied romance might save us from worse things.
(By the way, the worst thing that could ever happen is Silver Chair movie to become like Voyage of the Dawn Treader movie, but that is another post for another time.)
Tuesday, August 9, 2016
Updates on Silver Chair by Rebekah Walton
There have been very few updates on the new Silver Chair film. The most we have gotten so far a writer for the Screenplay adaption: David Magee and the independent company making the film: Mark Gordon and the big company distributor Sony.
~Updated December 14, 2016~
In a recent interview, Douglas Gresham said these things about the Silver Chair movie:
~Updated April 26, 2017~
The director has been announced: Joe Johnston
Gresham said:
“It is very good news that Joe Johnston has agreed to come on board for The Silver Chair! We need a man with real feeling for beauty, enchantment, excitement and indeed humour and fun, all things that this Movie will be full of. I am really looking for to working with Joe on the project. In the best movies, the Director is always a vibrant, hidden character in the film — and I reckon we’ve got one!”
Joe’s directing credits include: Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), Hidalgo (2004), Jurassic Park III(2001), October Sky (1999), Jumanji (1995), The Rocketeer (1991), and Honey I Shrunk the Kids (1989). Like Andrew Adamson he also has a visual effects background, having worked on the original Star Wars trilogy and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
~Updated May 21, 2017~
Joe Johnston said a few significant things about The Silver Chair movie:
“Will Poulter is a very good actor, but he’s too old to play Eustace now. But beyond that, I want to set this apart from the other trilogy. So, I’m going to start with an all-new cast.”
“Everything is new; this is the beginning of a brand-new trilogy. We will make reference to characters and events in the other films as the book does, but think of this as the beginning of an all-new trilogy.”
~ Updated June 27, 2017~
Tristar president had some things to say about the Silver Chair:
Silver Chair is a perfect moment to rejoin the franchise because it introduces a new character, a young girl named Jill, going into Narnia for the first time. Thematically, the story of a young girl who is being bullied but who has to find the courage to stand up not just for herself but ultimately all Narnians has such strong positive messaging.
~Updated August 12, 2017~
David Magee was interviewed Narniaweb and he had a lot to say about the Narnia Script:
http://www.narniaweb.com/2017/08/david-magee-interview-transcript/
“What’s interesting in the book is it’s not clear what [Jill] has been bullied about. [….] It’s not clear what the context is. Now to some extent maybe it doesn’t matter. The interesting thing about a book like The Silver Chair is it has an almost fable quality to it. […] But, as you make things real on screen and as you bring characters on screen it’s only natural to ask ‘Well, what is it that happened? What’s going on in your world?’ and so we spent a lot of time thinking about that. Obviously it’s still a dramatic time in world history, we’re still in wartime, we’re at a boarding school and this girl has gone through a lot of some sort or another. So, that’s where we began our exploration.”
He also mentioned that Puddleglum's speech was very important.
~Updated November 4, 2017~
We learned two things from Joe Johnston:
1. It's his finale film, then he is retiring.
2. The filming will start in next winter of 2018, so the movie will probably be released in 2019.
~Updated November 8, 2017~
We finally got rumored Casting news on the Silver Chair. I personally think this is my favorite part of all the production side of the film. I love seeing actors casted for parts. Also, it makes it feel like the movie is actually happening now, although the process has been really slow and drawn out.
Millie Bobby Brown is a possible Jill option in this rumor. Since I have only seen her in Once in a Wonderland as the younger Alice, I can only speak on her acting in that, but, it is good enough. Of course, as Jill she will probably have her normal brown hair, not bald like she is in Stranger Things and not a blond like Alice. I think I would be fine with her as Jill. For me, she just has to look the part and as long has she brown hair she looks the part to me. I think getting actors that are well known might help the film in the end so I am all for it.
~Updated October 3, 2018~
We finally got real news about Narnia! It seems that Narnia is heading over to Netflix. At first, I was very hestitate about this news but, it has come to grow on me especially because they said they were making both a tv show and movies based on the Narnia Universe.
If the tv show can be the movies they already did, LWW, PC, and VODT, and the movies are SC, HHB, MN, and LB I will be quite pleased. Some people are suggested an animated version for the tv series and live action for the movies and I like this idea as well. Also, for right now, I feel that mabye since they have both, if they want to make spin-offs, maybe they can make those only on the tv series and I can just not watch those and just watch the movies instead.
Either way, I think right now I should keep positive they could still hire Millie Bobby Brown as Jill and I think she would be great as Jill.
~ Updated June 12, 2019~
Matthew Aldrich who co-wrote Coco, has now been given the title of creative architect of the Narnia Netflix series and films. No one is sure of what that means but it probably is similar to Kevin Feige over Marvel.
https://www.narniaweb.com/2019/06/matthew-aldrich-to-oversee-netflixs-narnia/
~ Updated January 22, 2020~
It's been confirmed that The Silver Chair movie is definitely cancelled for now unless Netflix wants to make a Silver Chair movie. Also, there has been no update since Netflix has taken over Narnia, not even Douglas Gresham has heard anything. Someone mentioned on Narniaweb that it was 4 years since Amazon bought the rights for LOTR and now they have announced a casting call, so, it might take another 2 years or so for Netflix to do the same.
https://www.narniaweb.com/2020/01/douglas-gresham-hasnt-heard-a-word-on-netflixs-narnia/
~ Updated July 3, 2023~
that Narnia “more than likely” will begin filming either late this year or early in 2025. It’s not set in stone though as there are many “key department heads” yet to be hired – a timeline backed up by former Netflix Film Chief’s comments from November.
~Updated December 14, 2016~
In a recent interview, Douglas Gresham said these things about the Silver Chair movie:
- -pre-production will begin early next year.
- -For the fans that love Puddleglum’s famous speech from chapter 12… “We’ve got that in the movie,” Gresham confirmed.
- -Tristar has been completely on board with Gresham’s wishes for the script. He called The Silver Chair “the best Narnia movie script we have ever had” and believes it will be a “corker” of a movie. (David Magee is the only announced screenwriter)
~Updated April 26, 2017~
The director has been announced: Joe Johnston
Gresham said:
“It is very good news that Joe Johnston has agreed to come on board for The Silver Chair! We need a man with real feeling for beauty, enchantment, excitement and indeed humour and fun, all things that this Movie will be full of. I am really looking for to working with Joe on the project. In the best movies, the Director is always a vibrant, hidden character in the film — and I reckon we’ve got one!”
Joe’s directing credits include: Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), Hidalgo (2004), Jurassic Park III(2001), October Sky (1999), Jumanji (1995), The Rocketeer (1991), and Honey I Shrunk the Kids (1989). Like Andrew Adamson he also has a visual effects background, having worked on the original Star Wars trilogy and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
~Updated May 21, 2017~
Joe Johnston said a few significant things about The Silver Chair movie:
“Will Poulter is a very good actor, but he’s too old to play Eustace now. But beyond that, I want to set this apart from the other trilogy. So, I’m going to start with an all-new cast.”
“This is going to look different. It’s going to reflect my vision of what I think The Silver Chair is – the book. I have a production designer who is starting very shortly who I’m very excited about is going to design an amazing film. […] I want to open this film up; I don’t want it to feel like it was shot on a stage. So, a lot of it will be shot on location, probably in New Zealand on the South Island.”
“Everything is new; this is the beginning of a brand-new trilogy. We will make reference to characters and events in the other films as the book does, but think of this as the beginning of an all-new trilogy.”
~ Updated June 27, 2017~
Tristar president had some things to say about the Silver Chair:
Silver Chair is a perfect moment to rejoin the franchise because it introduces a new character, a young girl named Jill, going into Narnia for the first time. Thematically, the story of a young girl who is being bullied but who has to find the courage to stand up not just for herself but ultimately all Narnians has such strong positive messaging.
~Updated August 12, 2017~
David Magee was interviewed Narniaweb and he had a lot to say about the Narnia Script:
http://www.narniaweb.com/2017/08/david-magee-interview-transcript/
“What’s interesting in the book is it’s not clear what [Jill] has been bullied about. [….] It’s not clear what the context is. Now to some extent maybe it doesn’t matter. The interesting thing about a book like The Silver Chair is it has an almost fable quality to it. […] But, as you make things real on screen and as you bring characters on screen it’s only natural to ask ‘Well, what is it that happened? What’s going on in your world?’ and so we spent a lot of time thinking about that. Obviously it’s still a dramatic time in world history, we’re still in wartime, we’re at a boarding school and this girl has gone through a lot of some sort or another. So, that’s where we began our exploration.”
He also mentioned that Puddleglum's speech was very important.
~Updated November 4, 2017~
We learned two things from Joe Johnston:
1. It's his finale film, then he is retiring.
2. The filming will start in next winter of 2018, so the movie will probably be released in 2019.
~Updated November 8, 2017~
We finally got rumored Casting news on the Silver Chair. I personally think this is my favorite part of all the production side of the film. I love seeing actors casted for parts. Also, it makes it feel like the movie is actually happening now, although the process has been really slow and drawn out.
Millie Bobby Brown is a possible Jill option in this rumor. Since I have only seen her in Once in a Wonderland as the younger Alice, I can only speak on her acting in that, but, it is good enough. Of course, as Jill she will probably have her normal brown hair, not bald like she is in Stranger Things and not a blond like Alice. I think I would be fine with her as Jill. For me, she just has to look the part and as long has she brown hair she looks the part to me. I think getting actors that are well known might help the film in the end so I am all for it.
~Updated October 3, 2018~
We finally got real news about Narnia! It seems that Narnia is heading over to Netflix. At first, I was very hestitate about this news but, it has come to grow on me especially because they said they were making both a tv show and movies based on the Narnia Universe.
If the tv show can be the movies they already did, LWW, PC, and VODT, and the movies are SC, HHB, MN, and LB I will be quite pleased. Some people are suggested an animated version for the tv series and live action for the movies and I like this idea as well. Also, for right now, I feel that mabye since they have both, if they want to make spin-offs, maybe they can make those only on the tv series and I can just not watch those and just watch the movies instead.
Either way, I think right now I should keep positive they could still hire Millie Bobby Brown as Jill and I think she would be great as Jill.
~ Updated June 12, 2019~
Matthew Aldrich who co-wrote Coco, has now been given the title of creative architect of the Narnia Netflix series and films. No one is sure of what that means but it probably is similar to Kevin Feige over Marvel.
https://www.narniaweb.com/2019/06/matthew-aldrich-to-oversee-netflixs-narnia/
~ Updated January 22, 2020~
It's been confirmed that The Silver Chair movie is definitely cancelled for now unless Netflix wants to make a Silver Chair movie. Also, there has been no update since Netflix has taken over Narnia, not even Douglas Gresham has heard anything. Someone mentioned on Narniaweb that it was 4 years since Amazon bought the rights for LOTR and now they have announced a casting call, so, it might take another 2 years or so for Netflix to do the same.
https://www.narniaweb.com/2020/01/douglas-gresham-hasnt-heard-a-word-on-netflixs-narnia/
~ Updated July 3, 2023~
We finally got confirmed news that Greta Gerwig (not Thunberg) will be directing two Narnian movies.
~Updated March 11, 2024 ~
According to Deadline:
that Narnia “more than likely” will begin filming either late this year or early in 2025. It’s not set in stone though as there are many “key department heads” yet to be hired – a timeline backed up by former Netflix Film Chief’s comments from November.
So, we could get pictures behind the set or pictures of the filming is this happens by the end of 2024.
I will update this page every single time we get an update.
I will update this page every single time we get an update.
Tuesday, September 8, 2015
Moving Narnia stuff here by Rebekah Walton
I decided to not move my Narnia posts here. Instead, I will only post new Narnia posts here. So, I expect this might not get updated for a while now. I will start doing this on scenes they need to include in Silver Chair though.
And I might do a rough plan on how I think the movie should start. I will also discuss important facts like recasting Eustace and if they should reference the other movies at all.
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